Friday, December 31

In response to Tino's response to my blog entry

"Truth is pain, that's why God banished Adam and Eve, they ate from the fruit of knowledge and you can't have critical thinking in a Utopia. Hence the term, ignorance is bliss. So now massive organized religions and spiritual groups, leaders, and cults have given us the opportunity to taking this burden from us once and forever by forgetting our critical thinking and accepting their beliefs without question. Heaven is just a metaphor for the lack of truth, so that makes Heaven a beautiful thing.
You want the truth, you can't handle the truth. Significant other cheating on you, you're dying soon, the emperor is not a god, physics makes us look small in the universe, biology (other than our brain means) proves we are no more superior than a pig." ......Tino's response.....

Ignorance is only bliss for some. Ignorance is a constant searching and restlessness for others. And there is no truth in the illusion of thought. Thought is like a veil. Truth is beyond thought, behind that veil.
And either you misunderstand with I mean by truth, or you disagree with it. Truth is what is not based on perception, it is what is not illusion, it is something you can find burried deep under the dogma shit of religion.
It is not what the president really did, because the president, his position, the things he did, are all illusion.

Truth is real reality, not perceived reality.
I am looking for reality.
I am looking for clarity.

And really think about that Adam and Eve thing. Think about how layered that story is. Think about all the different ways it could be interpreted. It can be an amazing myth, and there are many different ways it can be understood.
(I will give some ideas if you're actually interested, but it will be way too long to put here.)

And I disagree with you about heaven being a metaphor for lack of truth. In fact, I think it is opposite of that. Heaven is lack of illusion, total truth, being completely connected to what is real.
Truth.
Hell is lack of truth. Hell is ignorance. It is where most of us are. It is a place of ego, of ideas, of "knowledge".
Truth is truth. It is none of those things.

You wrote: "Significant other cheating on you, you're dying soon, the emperor is not a god, physics makes us look small in the universe, biology (other than our brain means) proves we are no more superior than a pig."

These things are not truth. These things are illusion.

1 comment:

Candice said...

Well Tino, that's why at the end of my original blog, I said that it happens when you stop thinking, and then things just are.

So no, you can't go through collecting pieces to find truth. That's just trying to build truth of illusion.
You asked how you can find reality or clarity if your perceptions and thoughts are illusions.
My answer to that is by abandoning your perceptions and thoughts, because there is only what you have to say on the matter there, only your ego, and not truth.
Reality and truth are, as you said, infinite, but we are also part of the infinite, part of the all, and have access to all the truth it contains. In fact we are one with the truth it contains. The only things seperating us is our illusion of seperation.
And truth isn't subject to our means of understanding.
It is not subject to anything.
It just is.
So I think, in order to know truth, you have to just be.
Thoughtless.
One with it.
One with all.